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Post by Freddy on Nov 12, 2012 19:08:57 GMT 11
I look forward to the Day when we Australians see President Loitwa (Sp?) O'Donnahue and Vice President Franco Cozzo. You all know that such a scenario makes perfect sense  |
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Post by zombie on Nov 13, 2012 14:07:34 GMT 11
A Chinese President makes sense..
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Post by pim on Nov 15, 2012 18:10:47 GMT 11
That's Lowitja O'Donoghue. I'd be delighted, Freddy, and in the best of all possible worlds that's what would happen. Furthermore in the best of all possible worlds we'd be living in a green economy, run on collectivist lines, with no glass ceilings whether based on gender or on race. Free education and free health care would be accessible to all. We would live in public housing that is of such high quality and so close to shopping and recreation that private housing would be a stupid fantasy, and we'd all have access to quality public transport that is so comprehensive that cars and personalised transport would have become obsolete. Furthermore world peace would be a reality and poverty would be in the dustbin of history.  |
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Post by Freddy on Nov 24, 2012 22:09:10 GMT 11
A republic is inevitable, Pim, whether through our choice, or Britain's choice, no point scoffing it.
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Post by pim on Nov 25, 2012 8:06:12 GMT 11
Why is it inevitable? I don't subscribe to the notion of "linear progress forward" of history. Nothing is inevitable, except in hindsight and humanity continually gets mugged by events. Sometimes history goes backwards and succeeding generations end up being worse off and more ignorant than the generations who have come before. Everything you've said about a notional Australian republic is about the issue of the head of state. It's about changing the pointy bit at the top of the pyramid and leaving the rest of the pyramid untouched. That's what your "Resident for President" means. Sorry mate, you might get excited about that but pardon the rest of us if we react with a big yawn and switch over to watch the footy ...  |
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Post by zombie on Nov 25, 2012 18:03:36 GMT 11
Australia would be a republic tommorow if Australians knew how to keep those pommie fascist bastards as the head of state...they are tooo lovable to give up...!!
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Post by pim on Nov 26, 2012 18:01:01 GMT 11
You're right Zombie. We can't have Charles or William as our exclusive very own because there's an Act of the British Parliament dating back to 1701 that says we can't. But there are plenty of other unemployed royal parasites. Some of them are even downright bogan in their tastes. Such as these two ...  Bring one of 'em out here. Bugger it, bring 'em both! Tell them "Here's the deal! Yez have ter marry a fair dinkum Aussie bogan bloke - someone like Barnaby Joyce." Strewth, that's going a bit too far innit! Bloody Barnaby is probably a bit too old. Maybe Barnaby's son! Does he have one? Anyhoo they have to marry a Barnaby clone and any offspring of that union will be King or Queen of Australia - and nowhere else! Pretty good deal for Beatrice and Eugenie I reckon! They'd never get the chance to be Queen of anywhere else! And their Mum Fergie could visit them Down Under. She likes her booze and knows how to do shady deals. She'd fit right in! At a stroke the Australian republicans would have the wind taken out of their sails since the head of state issue would be solved permanently. And the constitution? All that re-drafting if we become a republic? Fergeddit!! There y'are! Solved all our constitutional issues. All in a few minutes. And you read it first right here! |
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Post by pim on Nov 26, 2012 18:06:43 GMT 11
But ... I hear you say ... there are two of 'em! They can't both be Queen! Who sez they can't! It would be our very own monarchy, wouldn't it?? Start off wiv two and the first one to drop a brat, that kid gets to inherit the Throne of Australia. See? Incorporate a spirit of healthy competition in an Australian monarchy right from the start. All those Liberal Party free marketeers should love it ...  |
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Post by Freddy on Nov 26, 2012 19:05:05 GMT 11
Why is it inevitable? I don't subscribe to the notion of "linear progress forward" of history. Nothing is inevitable, except in hindsight and humanity continually gets mugged by events. When William Gibson predicted the Word Wide Web,back in the late 70's, they asked the same question to him over his notion that by the 21 st Century every household would have a PC. Guess what, every household has a PC. Point is, the Monarchy is redundant, as far as its relevance to Australia is concerned. It's even irrelevant as far as the UK goes, other than a cheap tourist attraction for American Tourists. |
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Post by zombie on Nov 27, 2012 10:01:34 GMT 11
A novel idea Pim, and I can see the potential given rival queen behaviour of the past with beheadin's and imprisonment for goossip mags to have a field day with all that royal caper. Even a sired prince may get in on the act and have his mother and father (Barnlaid clone) done away with and killed,.. mother Queen for the chop and the KIng to have his guts spilt on a firey hot brazzier...what a show. Wonder if our Aussie Republican Ravens are up to the job of peckin' the eyeballs out..they may find the task distastefull, anyhow no matter if not Oz can import a mating pair from London Towers, keep it all British like. All Australia has for history is Ned Kelly...a King & Queen.... indeed writes a whole new history chapter for the young and free nation, good thinkin' Bluey, I likes it.. |
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